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dreadedcandiru2 ([personal profile] dreadedcandiru2) wrote2016-10-17 01:47 am

The eternal quest for maturity.

As you will recall, one of the things that really made a mess of Mike's romantic entanglements is his inflated self-image. As what I called Foob Fact Seven mandates, Mike believed that he was a much better catch than he actually was; while we saw a paranoid, touchy ignoramus with an inability to trust, forgive or understand, Mike still manages to blame all the mess Martha is going through now on being mean to the coolest kid ever.

The reason that I mention this is that it also makes him something of a pain in the ass to raise. While John and Elly are content to blame this on his reaching a certain age, history teaches us that his mistaken belief that he was being held back by parents who didn't want to admit that he was their peer has always made his life a mess. What he's at pains to avoid admitting is that his belief that he looks like an adult is so much nonsense because it would mean admitting something he doesn't want to. It means admitting that people who ain't gonna shut up about it are right for the wrong damned reasons. It's one thing to be an arrogant goof who thinks he's ready for things he ain't; it's quite another to be bossed around by nitwit parents who make that the case owing to what we can call

Foob Fact Forty-Eight B: Since Elly and John would far rather win arguments at any cost because they inflate the downside of letting their kids be right about something, the result of their damn-the-consequences belief that they have to win all the time has created passive idiot children who, despite their belief otherwise, can't cope with life's demands.

[identity profile] howtheduck.livejournal.com 2016-10-19 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
While Horsebun Elly is still trying to figure out why it was that being a mentor figure to Gayle Thomas didn't work out, she doesn't realize that Thelma saw Low-Hanging Ponytail Elly as being a similar sort of person in that what she saw was an angry, lonely mess without actual friends to help her raise her kids.

That's a good comparison. Throughout the strip, whenever the Patterson kids went some place away from Elly, there was always an older, female mentor who would step in and give sage advice to the Patterson kids and do all the old person jokes. Where you see the failures in this are when it involves Elly Patterson herself. Thelma Baird could have taken that role with Elly and likewise Elly could have taken that role with either Thomas girl, but for some reason Lynn could not have it play out that way if Elly is in the picture. Possibly this is because Lynn associated herself too closely with Elly and all indications are that Lynn did not get along well with the older women in her life, either her mother or Grandma Ruth Johnston.

Thelma was clearly initially based on Grandma Ruth as a means by which Lynn could vent her frustrations with her without actually using the more obvious John Patterson's mother avatar in the strip to do it. Like Thelma, Grandma Ruth lived next door and probably visited Lynn whenever she felt like it. Perhaps Lynn had a dream of a kindly older woman in her life, but it only manifested in the comic strip with the Patterson kids.

[identity profile] dreadedcandiru2.livejournal.com 2016-10-19 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Lynn doesn't like it when people tell her she's doing things wrong because she's hard-wired to think that the person in question hates her, wants to see her fail so she can laugh at her misery and is telling her that she's not fit to live. Having a kindly elderly mentor is going to be a non-starter because of that mental failing.