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Of course, the real problem that Elly has is that she's got no idea how her inability to understand or respect the amenities involved in dealing with Mrs Baird's passing make her look to anyone outside the Patterson family's social circle. What she and the others see is probably a friendly person who, having noticed a poooooor old lady with noooo one in her life having gone to her reward unheeded and unmourned, generously stepped in to save the day. The problem is that Thelma was stated to have nieces and nephews who would pretty much see that as their job.

To elucidate on this, let's pay obeisance to Anglo-Canadian naming habits of the post-war years and call one of said nieces Mrs Flora Humphries and let's say that she's marked down as next of kin because she, and not some random jerk dentist's wife with a case of too big for her britches, is executor of Thelma's estate. It would probably appall her to find that when she got off the red-eye from Calgary to the Metro Toronto area, some dozy idiot she knows as "the deluded jerk I bs'ed into thinking I was going to have a puppy put down" is racing around taking over the memorial service and blithely setting aside previously-agreed on plans because she knew best. Only the need to avoid making a scene would have stopped her from tearing Elly a new behind.
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There is, of course, another interesting thing about the cedar chest that Elly can't quite consider because she's kind of short-sighted. To explain that thing, let's explain another thing that's going to happen: Elly and Phil getting territorial about all of the crap their folks unload when they downsize. Much noise is made about the old pump organ both of them want for their own reasons. As I've said before, Elly needs to get the damned thing even if she has no intention of ever playing it because she wants to prove once and for all that Phil should apologize for being born male and thus hijacking her childhood and making her a slave in her own home while he got to be free and happy and never have to deal with half the shit she did. Phil wants the damned thing because he'll use it and he's all kinds of sick of Elly rewriting history to make herself the victim of all victims surpassing all others when everyone else saw a reasonably happy girl having a reasonably easy life. Jim is sick of his two idiot children never getting along because they want to fight childhood battles until they're in their eighties so he gives the damned thing to the church to stop the damned fighting because he thinks if he takes the symbol away, the fight will go with it.

Since Elly is as dumb as a sack of hair, it's quite likely that she doesn't understand that the same blasted thing might have been going on with that cedar chest Thelma gave her. What could easily have happened is that Thelma reflected on what her nieces and nephews were up to and thought to herself "Gee willy-wonkers!! Dora and Wesley are fit to murder one another over that old chest of mine! Maybe if I hand it off to that dozy idiot woman who I used to live next to because I feel sorry for her and her family, they'll settle the heck down!!"

The reason that she might have been seen as a useful neutral party that Thelma almost pitied would never actually occur to the poor, dim-brained creature is, of course, the fact that Elly is also exceedingly vain on top of being as dumb as dirt and almost genetically incapable of seeing all the good things in her life. To be given a sort of sympathy prize from someone who wants other people to focus on what matters is not something that can occur to her while being thought of as being central to this woman's existence is.
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A long time ago, I pointed out that most of what Elly currently thinks of Mrs Baird bears little to no relation to what she thought of the woman when she was actually alive. We remember that Elly saw Thelma as:


  1. The huckster who manipulated her into getting the puppy she never actually wanted by playing on her sympathies.

  2. An old biddy who had the inconvenient habit of dropping by to talk her ear off with boring stories of a by-gone and best forgotten world as if she had nothing better to do.

  3. A professional childless woman who felt it her duty to interfere with meal times and offer up unsolicited and useless advice about how her children are not actively engaged in trying to destroy her because they HAVE to hate her lest she look in the mirror and see a tetchy idiot over-reacting to not very much.

and saw her replacement as Next Door Neighbour by Connie Poirier as a wondrous thing because she could go next door and find someone who agrees with her about how children are all horror monsters that want to reduce her into a babbling idiot who serves them with mindless glee and never, ever expects any thanks.

The problem is that Elly is capable of feeling remorse when societal pressure is more powerful than her need to resent people. While she’ll always actively resent her mother for daring to ask “Why is it all right for you to withhold praise from your children because you fear that if they know you’re proud of them, they’ll just sit down in a puddle of their own wastes and die because ‘they don’t have to do anything any longer’ and not okay for me to do the same thing for much less apocalyptic reasons?”, the idea that she still actively resents someone who died makes her fear being regarded as not nice. Rather than do the smart thing and simply state that whatever animosity she might have felt has to be buried with Thelma, Elly wants to live in a world where she treated the old doll better and was a better neighbour. Thus do we have her telling people the same sort of bullshit story about a dead woman that she does about her record as a parent.

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One of the more irritating habits Lynn had is that she couldn't quite allow herself to let characters she didn't see as having much in common with one another interact. The same woman who can't include characters who don't talk to her doesn't seem to be present when they talk to one another; this is sort of a let-down because it's obvious that she missed out on a nifty.

This is because it's clear as anything that Marian Richards and Thelma Baird would have taken an instant dislike to one another. Next door to Elly is a professional dog breeder who saw pets as a positive thing that enriched lives and who didn't see the point of Elly's regime of endless screaming and never allowing herself to be pleased by anything. Back 'home' on the West Coast is a bitter lunatic who hates dogs because of her own lousy childhood, kept Elly from winning arguments to make her a nice child and who thinks that if a child is allowed to know that what she does pleases her mother, said child will simply sit down and die in a puddle of her own filth because an idiot English Canadian like Marian is hard-wired to imagine a child thinking 'My mommy loves me so I don't have to exert myself or grow or get better; I can now just vegetate because I'm loved'.

The irritating thing is not just that Marian would clearly have thought she won the inevitable argument about her lousy methods and how they made Elly the paranoid bug-fuck crazy rage goblin she is today because fate denied Thelma a child. The irritating thing is not that Marian never regretted a single hurtful word or shrugged off her child's heartache. The irritating thing is, as always, that Marian is too damned stupid to understand that Elly isn't a normal person. She died never understanding that Elly took her to mean only what she said she meant and went to her death not accepting the anecdotal evidence of husbands, sons, sons-in-law, relatives and others who didn't know what they were talking about that suggested that Elly saw herself as a despised and regretted disappointment who couldn't make her mother happy, Elly God-damned knew that she was loved and respected and no one had to tell her that.

Ah, well. Since this strip allows for a sort of bullshit afterlife with ghost dogs hanging around trees so they can play with their abusers and dead women sewing Miracle Dresses, we can imagine that instead of Masky McDeath ushering her into the void, Thelma would be there to show Marian the truth. Since, as the Japanese say, only death can cure a fool, only death could make Marian see the damage she did loving Elly in a way she couldn't understand and that made her feel like a garbage person. This is why I think that instead of Marian's ghost helping out with the dress, that's Thelma subbing for someone who avoids her family out of shame.
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Now that Thelma has appeared for the last time, it's time to take stock of what she leaves behind: Elly's dislike of having to hear about a past she wasn't part of, Elly's distaste for having someone old come along and mess with the way she raises the kids, Elly's baffled horror at the prospect of old people being in love and Elly's discomfort with having been stuck with a dog that's a sticking point with her mother.

Remember, Elly seems to see herself and her wants and needs as being the only ones that exist and it's sort of beyond her capabilities to quite understand what Thelma saw when she looked at the dentist's young wife. While Horsebun Elly is still trying to figure out why it was that being a mentor figure to Gayle Thomas didn't work out, she doesn't realize that Thelma saw Low-Hanging Ponytail Elly as being a similar sort of person in that what she saw was an angry, lonely mess without actual friends to help her raise her kids.

This is because Thelma would have had to see what most people saw when they looked at Connie and Annie. On the one hand, Elly made a love object of a clingy, needy, mousy neurotic living a life of noisy desperation barging over for a shoulder to cry on and with Annie, you have the too-clever-by-half type confidently spouting nonsense while denying her husband's obvious bad traits. Worse, the poor child is clearly too hung up on trying to please the same sort of blind-eyed house-proud shrew Thelma knew all too well growing up in Yorkshire; it was thus obvious that this poor angry young thing needed a good influence to keep her from doing perfectly nice children lasting damage. Since Elly doesn't know how damaged she is owing to her need to award herself positive traits she doesn't have, she doesn't understand that she was the target of a mentor. What she does know is that she already had a mother...which is kind of the problem.
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Of course, there is one exception to the otherwise ironclad rule against not maintaining perfect fidelity to one's assigned Longed-For One: the otherwise Once In A Lifetime True Love has to be dead for at least ten years and you have to be over sixty so there's no chance of the step-child problem. This is why the only thing Elly stressed about with Mrs Baird and her dad was the stress love puts on the human heart. In both cases, elderly people were allowed to be together for their last few years because, well, it beat her long-feared dread of dying single all hollow.

The interesting thing about this is at that some point, someone usually makes a rather maudlin and mawkish remark about how after seven decades of fidelity, he or she is suddenly the proud owner of a complicated love life. This, I should think, is owing to a sort of belief in an afterlife that's a shadowy approximation of the living world. In this Foob Valhalla, we're supposed to look forward to an eternity of Marian grousing at Jim for 'cheating' on her just because she was dead longer. Perhaps he, Mrs Baird and Les Moore can go off to Afterlife Montoni's one day and talk about their troubles over ghostly gazpacho pizza. After all, St Dead Lisa is also sort of angry at him for remarrying and would tend to be a jerk about it.
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Given what we know about how little use Elly had for Thelma Baird when she was alive, it would make sense to assume that she play-acted mourning a woman she was cold to because she knew that despite her feeling as if dealing with her was a burden, her children thought the world of the kindly old meddler who gave them yummy treats, praised them for a job well done and many other things that got in the way of Elly's loving plan of showing that she loved her children with all her heart by being a bitter, angry nag who could never be pleased with anything. The problem with that reasoning is that under the angry blowhard and psychotic-looking malcontent, there's a born follower ready to cravenly follow a party line.

What this means is that Mrs Baird's body didn't even have a chance to get cold before Elly started revising the past to make them best friends. Elly's fear of being known to have an unpopular opinion and her living and dying by what other people might think made it a priority to not be known as the Bad Person who didn't especially miss someone she didn't like dealing with. This took the form of her telling herself that she hung off of Thelma's every word and thought of her as an extra mother and a whole host of other crap. It's too damned bad that she was too busy rewriting the past to notice what her refusal to give Lizzie a proper understanding of Death would make a mess of the future; otherwise, Liz wouldn't think that for her to enter nursing homes would always kill the person she's visiting.
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As we all sort of know by now, Lynn has always had a problem with older women telling her what to do. No matter who that older lady might be, Lynn seems to actively resent having to deal with or obey someone who isn't a big, strong man who she can respect. What this means is that the point of the arc we just watched seems to be to remind us that Elly never really seems to have especially liked Thelma much.

This is because she has done certain things that a snippy, defensive, sullen and just plain angry basket-case like Elly would see as war crimes:

  1. The first big arc with Thelma ended up with her conning Elly into taking in a puppy she didn't want because she knew she'd get stuck with it because she liked children who needed to learn to obey their mother more than Elly.
  2. Thelma used to waste Elly's valuable time about boring people she never met, boring places she can't visually imagine and boring events that mean nothing to her.
  3. Since Thelma is childless and thus possessed with the wicked urge to overstep her authority, she used to override Elly's parenting decisions and spoil dinners for children who had to learn to eat only what Elly cooked when Elly cooked it.
  4. Thelma has annoying interests that repel Elly and the overweening need to force Elly to partake in them.
  5. When she explains this to people, they all defend Thelma and call Elly a prickly annoyance who's still an irritant and spoiled brat.


This is why the last time we see Thelma, Elly takes Lizzie with her so that at least someone going to the old folk's home will be happy to see the old meat-axe. The interesting thing is that since she isn't actually family, a form of stupid magic takes place when Thelma passes away. Suddenly, a live irritant will magically become a dead mentor Elly always loved.
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The interesting thing is that one of the first extended subplots of the middle years is the final fate of Thelma Baird. As it stands now, we're about to have Elly dismiss bingo because it's not to her tastes and be mildly warmed by the fact that the woman she sees as sort of a proxy aunt has found herself male companionship for the last few years of her life.

The reason that I mention this is that instead of being equally touched by this, Anne is scornfully dismissive of Thelma's finding love late in life owing to poorly disguised jealousy and something else that should be obvious when you read her Liography and start reading crap about Cinderella and Prince Charming and all the rest of the sheer hokum that they're poisoning today's little girls with.

This is because it's obvious to me that Annie is one of the first victims of Disney Princessery and decided romance is a con-job because Steve turned into a normal man with emotional needs she didn't understand and refused to meet. I'm not absolving the jerk for running around on her but I also ain't sparing her for making snippy comments about his baffling silences when it's obvious to anyone with a soul that he feels inadequate most of the time. Too bad for both of them that Elly assumes that the only possible reason love becomes a dial tone hum is that parents have to chase after children. She might have been able to help Annie.
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As I said the other day, it seems to me that it took Michael a few years to catch up to everyone else and become a member of the Middle Years cast. We have three years to go for him to stop looking like Evil Linus and start looking like a smaller version of The Delicate Genius. You might say that Michael is in conflict with the premise that's being established. While everyone else is trying to head into a wider world, the grandiose little nitwit is trying very hard to keep the strip the way it is because change means that he's not really the measure of all things. We have to wait for the dolt to attend eighth grade before he's really a part of the cast again.

That being said, we at least don't have to watch Lynn to do to him what she did to the other hold-over from the Early Years: Mrs Baird. In about six months time, we're going to watch the kids get all weepy about how life is always changing and thus getting ruined forever because Thelma simply can't live in her house any longer. While it did set up something Mike liked by having Lawrence back so he could pretend life wasn't going to change substantively, it also set things up for the first death we saw in the strip. In about two years or so, the poor thing will pass quietly in her sleep and we'll be watching Elly wonder where people's priorities are.

It turns out that people's priorities are in trying to will themselves to forget that people die; this is because she goes through the same thing with her mother and doesn't seem to have learned much from having to bury Mrs Baird. The legacy she leaves behind is the need to connect the pets to Farley the shambling and brain-damaged abuse victim pet of delight.
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The odd thing about having to remember Mrs Baird is not that we had to deal with the stupid legacy of Farley's stupidly being allowed to mate with Sera because Elly stupidly refused to at least buy a decent lock if she couldn't be bothered supervising April so that Edgar's existence could mean that the old doll could continue to be a presence in the Pattersons' lives years after she'd passed away. The odd thing is that we learned more about her in the year she lived after she moved away than we ever did during the Early Years.

This is because she started out as a sort of stock character: the kindly old lady across the way who gives out cookies and treats despite what Mommy might have to say about the matter. This being sort of a foil to Elly might have persisted for some time were it not for the sort of need Lynn has to explain to the world that old married couples usually downsize when one of them is too poorly to function well and that old widowed ladies move to the nursing home because they don't want to die in their real houses. It was then that we found out that her husband died fairly young and it sort of broke her because she didn't want to betray him by moving on with her life until it was pretty much over with anyway.

While she did tell Elly not to take John for granted because it could end just like that, what really captured Elly's attention was having to help her sort through her belongings to see which of her nieces and nephews got what because she had a sort of wake-up call. After all, she felt that she was nearing senility herself at that point and seemed to have been under the impression that Lizzie would be spending the day after her senior prom divvying up her poor dead mother's belongings with Mike. Most of the gloomy commentary about why no one seemed to have done too much to help the poor old woman while she was alive to appreciate seem thus to have been rather self-serving as she saw herself in her old neighbor and cast herself as the neglected old lady being asked to die quietly in the corner so as to not disturb people.
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The odd thing about the middle years is having to deal with one of the odder side effects of the stupid, soap operatic revenge fantasy in which Ted takes it between the uprights so as to serve as a stand-in for all the stinkaloos who ever stood Lynn up in her life; said side effect is the imbecilic nonsense that required Connie to play what we might call musical houses for a while.

We're going to see the process in motion all over again next January when Mrs Baird interrupts Elly lecturing Phil about how smoking is for clods and savages to announce that she's getting too old to rattle around her big old empty house and wants to move into the senior citizens complex. This, for some irritating reason, traumatizes Lizzie and Mike into trying to sabotage the process because unlike regular children who'd shrug when told this and ask when dinner is, they want her to live in her old house forever and ever.

This coincides neatly with Connie's oafish control freak husband throwing her under the bus by getting a transfer to Milboring so he can step on a relationship that scares him all to death, the poor baby. As Elly blinds herself to the fact that she's just flushed Annie down the commode, she makes the amazingly surprising and not at all ploddingly inevitable suggestion that Connie can move to the Baird place so they can drink coffee and snipe about ungrateful children forever and always.

This not only allows Elly to have her real best friend around so they can compare notes on how horrible children are, it also sets things up so that we can have her drop in on Mrs Baird every so often. This might have been something of a fixture save for the fact that Lynn didn't have the real Thelma in her life any longer so one fine day, John asked what amusing adventure she'd embarked upon only to be told "dying in her sleep of a massive stroke." More on that and what we can take away from her life tomorrow.
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Remember the other day when the Patterson children made a big show of 'adopting' Mrs Baird? While we questioned the sincerity and usefulness of the gesture, what wasn't covered is how Thelma saw the Pattersons. From her earliest appearance in the strip to her last arc, it seemed obvious that she saw Elly and the others as filling a vacuum in her life that she was 'supposed' to have. Since all women in the Foobiverse are supposed to want children lest they be evil, spidery, man-eating career women who plot to make poor Liz die alone and unloved and never, ever in a position to pay her poooooor parents back, Elly was seen as being God's way of giving Thelma the daughter a cruel fate denied her. Finally, she could have someone to pass her wisdom down to like a woman is supposed to.

The problem is that Elly was as ready to receive her wisdom as she was her own real mother's. The same child who did a very bad job of observing and accurately Marian's methodology owing to a combination of impatience, inattention and her stubborn fear of being corrected grew up to become a tended to tune out Mrs Baird when the kindly old lady archetype talked about boring and wrong stuff about how maybe Mike should be allowed to get things that benefit him when it was obvious that the only benefit Mike should derive out of life was the knowledge that he was making his mother's life better. It's also not as if she was a more dutiful child in other respects. She made a vague promise to look in on Thelma's gentleman friend after the woman passed on but she never did because that would be too much like work. Simply put, Thelma would have done better to stick with her dogs. They aren't always bumming money or getting snippy when you tell them that they're making a mistake raising their kids.

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